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Hello and welcome everybody. This is Joe from StartupRate.io,

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your startup podcast and YouTube blog from Germany, the authority on GSA startups.

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Today, I don't have necessarily a entrepreneur here with me,

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or that is not the main focus of today's interview.

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Because I welcome Stefan here with me. Hey, welcome. Hello, hello.

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Happy to have you here. We may tell our audience that you are the brain behind

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one of our partnerships called modernIQs.com, where people can create SEO articles.

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And so we thought, maybe it's a good idea to show the people not only who's

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behind it, but also how to do that. That's why we're not going into your very

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long and extensive career as an entrepreneur.

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We rather go directly into the tool that is your brainchild.

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Can you tell us a little bit how you got the idea and what you want to achieve with it?

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And then we'll go through an article that you'll actually do for me on a test account.

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And then we can talk about what's important there and also a few factors many

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people don't have in mind, because I learned from you, the speed of a website is important.

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That's why Startup Radio would need to work on the internal linking and stuff

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like this. So the stage is all yours.

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Thank you. Thank you. So look, I had multiple old projects. One was appcolumbus.com.

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And that was a platform for software as a service tools, right?

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And so I got paid when I had a lot of people clicking my links, right?

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And so I was creating blog articles and I had Google Search Console installed.

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So I saw how much traffic was coming in and it was like, yeah,

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well, it wasn't too much, but it was like, so I had a reach on Google of a thousand

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people in a month, right?

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So, and I was creating those blog articles and it took me like, I don't know, maybe.

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Two to four hours per article and when i was i think i think i actually had 69 articles.

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Before i used ai tools to create text to put it on so you have to imagine this

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is like we're talking about a page for software as a service tool and by the

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time i had 69 articles on i i used this AI and generate a text.

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So what I was doing is I was creating a description, a feature block,

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and a summary for every tool.

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And I did those in one day. So in one day, I was creating 69 descriptions,

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69 feature blocks, and 69 summaries.

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And I put the text on to this platform on this day as well.

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And I could see, just like Almost the next day, it started to come up.

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And one week later, I saw, wow, traffic is going up.

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And it actually went like 130x in one or two months.

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So that means two months later, I had 130,000 reach on Google per month.

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And I was like, okay, so now I didn't know that blog articles can get you so

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much, so much more reach and traffic than, you know, my social media activities combined it.

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So that was like at least 10 times more. I have one question here because a

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lot of people will go out there with their startup and have a very neat.

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Clean, orderly website.

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Maybe they have a blog, most don't. And if they do have a blog,

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they have like every four weeks something posted on there.

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We recommend them to do a little bit more.

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Look, Google has one of the strongest things, Google and search,

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I guess every search engine is kind of following Google.

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So that's called eat. So you're showing your expertise.

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The better you cover your topic with high quality, insightful content,

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the better Google sees you as an expert in the field.

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And the more Google sees you as an expert in the field, the more it sends you traffic. Right.

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So to do that, I mean, look, I always have the sentence saying,

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if you have a website without blog articles, it's like having a supermarket without products.

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You can walk in, but there's nothing to buy or see there.

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So why should people walk in? It's the same with Google.

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Why should Google, I give you a very simple example for, let's say, a restaurant, right?

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Well, let's say a cocktail bar. So you have a cocktail bar somewhere in town

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and nobody, everybody has a website, but nobody has recipes for cocktails on their website.

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So if somebody is searching for, you know, Long Island iced tea,

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whatever, Long Island, Manhattan or whatever,

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and you're the only restaurant that has content to show, who's Google going to send the traffic to?

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It's like Google won't send people into an empty supermarket.

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So, right? So this is why you should have a lot of content.

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Like the more content you have, the more Google sees you as an expert,

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if it is high quality, right?

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So only ChatGPT, you have to be way more lucky if you only have text.

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And, you know, like what our system does is automating hundreds of steps you

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usually need to do by hand.

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So that's part of the quality. Yeah.

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For example, which steps? Because I know a lot of people out there have Gemini,

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Claude, or ChatGPT access, and they're tempted to do this by themselves.

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Well, so something ChatGPT does, for example, already is a headline structure.

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So if you have a blog article, you're only supposed to have one H1 headline.

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So that's the title headline, right? And then the subheadlines H2,

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H3, and in the correct structure.

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So if your blog article has –.

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In h1 and h3 and then in h2 this is not making sense right so it's like it needs

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to be clean structure that's the headline structure that's one out of i don't

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know maybe 200 ranking factors,

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you you gotta have a table of contents your images need to be small you have

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need to have multiple images they need to be small so the site is loading fast

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they need to have alternative image texts that the name,

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I mean, even, even just the images are hours of work, finding the right one,

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resizing the, the reducing the size,

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finding, uh, renaming it correctly, uploading it to your website, right?

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All this stuff we automate and the stuff like plagiarism checks and so on,

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which nobody really does.

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And if you have plagiarism on your website, Google is

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not gonna like you yeah that is

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one of the reasons why we do um what we

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do different articles at first we've been on medium

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but we've been not very happy um also

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with the results we've been getting there because they're more and more focused

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on monetizing the website where on the other hand we have been we have been

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seeing less and less traffic there even though our podcast has grew to considerable size.

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We have like 2.5 million impressions just in the first half of this year,

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and that was totally not reflected in our Medium blog.

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So we thought that kind of keeps people away.

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So far, our website has shown that this was the case, at least for us.

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And therefore, we first completely stopped Medium.

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But now we're doing kind of a wrap-up, easier version on medium.com also to

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keep the people who are following us there kind of abreast of what we're doing

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in our normal podcast episodes.

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Yeah. So the second part of why I did this is healthline.com.

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And healthline.com is like the golden standard of high quality content.

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And that's what we're trying to reproduce automatically. So they are getting

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200 million monthly website visitors by only by like mostly they don't spend advertising money.

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As far as I know, the only thing they really do is blogging.

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So, so that's like, that's the thing what you have to consider is like,

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if you have a lot of high quality content.

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The chances are that you get millions of visitors monthly without paying so

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that that was that was the goal always like create a blog article in 10 seconds

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that has healthline quality,

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i see you see and that's when you came up with modern accuse if i look into your,

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linkedin profile you're working on the project for a little bit over two years

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now is that how long it took for you to to really create that tool Well,

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we're still like, so automating, automating 200 ranking factors is,

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is it's still a work in progress.

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So the next big thing is going, we're going to integrate internal linking and

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like a heck of a lot of stuff. But yeah, most of the time was developing and improving the quality.

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So every ranking factor we automate, the quality improves the average quality.

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I see. So let us show everybody who's listening to this.

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We're now going on your Modern IQs website. And there you basically show us

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just one tiny little example of what this thing can do. and then we go like generating a blog post.

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Everybody knows if you use the affiliate link from celebrate.io down here in

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the show notes, you'll get two free SEO articles a month from your modern IQs.

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And now let's show us how to do that before we get into how to do more with the tool.

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Yeah, okay. So this is a register site. I already created an account and I'm

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just going to quickly sign in.

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So, here we go. That's the account creation page.

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Now we click on blog articles, and this is the blog article generator.

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So basically, the thing what you got to do is every website has one or several main topics.

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In your case, we have prepared some information already.

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So that so what you want to

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focus on now what you want to create a lot of content

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for is the main topic become a podcast

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advertiser right so this

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is what comes in here and then we have so this

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is basically this field you only need to

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fill out once for hundreds or maybe even thousands

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of articles you want to create then the

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second field is the blog article category everybody don't

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forget to change this when you change the category because otherwise well this

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the content will still be okay but the ai might get a little confused right

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so the category here is how to start podcast advertising right and then we have created right,

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Prepared headlines and background information.

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So, okay.

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So what's important here? This background information field,

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this is where you tell the AI what general direction you want the content to be about.

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This is not 100% necessary. If you have a cocktail bar, if you have a restaurant,

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if you want to create a blog article for chicken teriyaki Amsterdam, right?

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If your headline is best chicken teriyaki Amsterdam, this is not really needed

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to tell the AI what is chicken teriyaki, right?

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It can do it. But in your case, obviously, we're trying to create expert quality

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content, expert insights and so on.

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And that's why telling it what kind of direction, what the article should talk

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about, what core ideas should be in the article, this is what you have to fill in here.

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I recommend always something like a couple of sentences. This is your perfect.

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We may tell our audience that when we started with all that stuff,

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I gave you something like almost a whole blog article and basically you said

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way too much, way too much. You stick to five sentences.

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It helps. Look, I guess it helps to be more specific.

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But the thing is, this is supposed to be a one-click tool, right?

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So it's not really, in most cases, it's not needed.

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Like this is a perfect format here. I was creating lots and lots of articles

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with a couple of sentences of background information, telling the AI something

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like, write the article around this idea.

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And then I describe what I want inside the article.

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And so it takes the combination of the website topic, the category,

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the headline, and the background info to create what you want and fast.

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So we can do this now. So I did now set up WordPress.

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To set up this takes one minute and we have a description, a tutorial video below here.

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So that's done very easy. And now we create the article. I got to choose the language as well.

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Here we go. And now the system takes like one or two minutes.

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We are going to switch to OpenAI 101 quite soon.

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And then the article creation will be longer again, but it will be more higher

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quality, even higher quality.

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So give the system a bit of time because there is hundreds of things running

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in the background now, and it takes a little bit, right?

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This is not an app which you click and, you know, it does a little thing.

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This is like 20 hours of human work which are happening now.

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So it takes a little bit. Yeah. So you tell the tool it's going to produce this

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blog post and then if you have a WordPress website, you can then instantly,

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when you give it the credentials,

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instantly go into your WordPress management view and can basically publish it

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right from there, right?

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Yeah, true. So I have set up WordPress now, and this is taking one minute.

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We have a tutorial video below here, and the article should be created now as well. Here we go.

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So let me just quickly preview. What you can see here now is that's the headline, right?

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This is my fake test account. That's my fake test website.

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And here we have the table of contents, are clickable

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and everything headline structure is perfect then you

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have image layout and everything already

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um and you know the

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article length is is something which is in the what we think is the golden spot

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is like above 1000 words but below crazy amounts which this is not needed in

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the future anymore so this is how an article looks like and basically all you gotta do is

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if you want to create the second article,

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is exchange the headline,

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exchange the background information.

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I usually do this by dictating into my Mac.

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This is an advantage as well. So it's possible to do this in like 10 seconds

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or maybe in a minute, right?

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And that's really the purpose of the tool. How fast can you create something

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like 10 articles or something?

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So the use case, right? And if you are a small business, like a cocktail bar,

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you can create 1,000 articles in one hour.

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So because it's not necessary, let's say a hundred articles in five minutes or 10, right?

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All you got to do is like enter the headline. Like I always suggest recipes

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because people would like to, would look for recipes.

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So Long Island iced tea recipe, Berlin, right?

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Yeah. And like five variations for each season plus a Christmas version.

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Something like that yeah and then people people

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look for the recipe once because they want to do that do

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it themselves and the next time they're like ah i'm

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i don't have the ingredients let's go to the bar which bar should we

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go to right this this kind of thing yeah so it's

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it's it's a fast tool right the upload even just

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reducing image size and uploading this to your

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website and linking everything up and selecting the images and

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so on this is like crazy amount of work yeah how

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many images do you think is optimal for a

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blog post well it can

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it depends on the length of of the post but um

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uh five to ten images are

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aren't like one image is if you don't

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have an image that the chances are drastically reduced

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for it to rank if you have one image it's like the absolute absolute bare minimum

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but um google likes to see this right i mean look we like to see this as well

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we like to see something in between so so everything looks more pleasant right and um.

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Yeah so um if you have more images don't hurt as long as the size is very small

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and that for the loading time of the article is fast if the loading time is

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slow there's nothing you can do I see.

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That's something my website suffers from. And that's something I really have to work on.

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But it takes a lot of like redoing a website that's not yet completely done.

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So that may take some time.

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People may know that I work really crazy hours from 8am to 10pm, like almost every day.

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And if you then add another layer of work, that's quite a lot.

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So I'll work with the two, but it'll take some time until I can really relaunch

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the site in a way that is really good.

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But thank you for the tip.

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Yeah, sure. And, you know, especially for somebody like you, right?

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You could possibly, if you would want to create like a second episode every

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week or so, you could just use our content idea generator to get ideas for single

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person episodes, right?

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Where you don't interview somebody, you just talk about some topic.

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And with this here, right, you can create hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

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of topics in seconds. Yeah.

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So our philosophy is really always the one-click thing.

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Make it very easy, very fast, very scalable. Yeah. It's not a play around tool.

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It's a get shit done tool.

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Yeah. And in terms of total amount, You said at one point, like when you have

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one, two, three, four, five articles, Google doesn't care.

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Where is the critical area right now as we're speaking mid of October 2024?

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Where is like the midpoint when you start to become relevant to Google if you're

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talking like about one or two certain related topics there?

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Can you elaborate this? I'm not sure what you mean. The thing is,

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if you have like one article, there is an almost zero probability that you get additional visitors.

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How many articles would you need to really start a kickstart getting more traffic?

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It's this is something i i have to say i i don't i don't know the more there's two factors um,

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so so i give you an example on on those 69 articles i had on appcolumbus.com

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there was one article that made 80 of the traffic right so 80 was coming from one out of 70.

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Um so so the point is the more

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articles you have the higher the chances are that

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you get the one that is ranking extremely well right and and this is then getting

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the most traffic but also everything is going to rank better the the more the

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more you cover your topic right the more you show.

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So for example, as a coach, a coach, coach always wants to show expertise,

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right? Everybody kind of wants to show expertise.

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So if you, if you would go on a website of a coach, for example,

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and you would see his topic.

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Sorted by category and every category you click in you see 50 or 100 articles

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right then you would be like wow this guy knows everything google is kind of

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the same and um so if the quality is is,

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good enough and the loads load time is fast enough then um the this is like

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a factor that ranks everything better yeah so the better you you cover it you

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have like a double and use that because I've seen this over and over.

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Startups do have a podcast where it's very, very easy now to get a transcript.

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And you always said in my articles, you've been a little bit jealous because

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those transcripts set you apart. Plus you can work with those transcripts as

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a basis to develop not only one good article, but many good articles, right?

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I'm addicted. I'm addicted to seeing our

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tool creating articles from podcast

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transcripts i i did one yesterday with

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a new with a new factor we we automated and it was it was referencing the last

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name of the podcast guest i think 50 times in the article so it's like extreme

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in-depth quality content done with in one click basically is I love to see this. Yeah.

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And there are a lot of tools out there who can really, really do a good transcript.

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Sometimes it's a little bit screwed up because in our podcast,

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we are shifting at least for names for certain topics.

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We're shifting a few words into German that hugely screws up every translation

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software because they cannot jump between languages.

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But basically, we'll get a very, very decent result by now.

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When I started out with Chris doing the startup news, instead of startup rate.io,

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we got like star ballroom dancing.com or something that happened in the past quite frequently.

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I remember one tool. It was like one of the very first iterations of Google.

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It did this ballroom dancing, plus it always called me Jerome. Yeah.

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I think ChatGPG is doing the best job with translation currently.

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I think it's even better than Depot and so on.

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Can you also use it to do transcript? You can, right?

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I'm not sure, actually. But one thing I wanted to say before I forget,

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when it comes to transcripts, the name's got to be in the transcript, right?

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The transcript needs to show who is talking currently.

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Then this is getting high quality, very, very high quality.

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Look, for example, in our interviews, also in the show notes of this one,

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I'll have Stefan with his full name, with his company and his title every time he speaks there.

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So that's what we try to do. Yeah.

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Great. Stefan, it was a pleasure having you here.

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We did record a lot of time because we've both been pretty, pretty tired.

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It's Friday late afternoon.

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Our editor will have to do a hell of a job to get this straight.

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But nonetheless, thank you very much. It was a pleasure talking to you.

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And everybody who would like to learn more, down here in the show notes,

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you can sign up for moderniqs.com with our affiliate link, plus learn more about

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you on your LinkedIn profile.

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Thanks for having me. My pleasure. Have a good day. Bye-bye. You too. Ciao, ciao.

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